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 Talnoye - My Father's  shtetl


 

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Welcome to Talnoye!  This page is dedicated to the memory of my father, Samuel Charles Margulis.  I also am dedicating this page to all of the residents who died at the hands of the Nazis during WW II and are buried in a common pit outside of this town.

Talnoye is in the Cherkassy region, 47 km. east of Uman (or 140 km west of Odessa).  Best to hire a driver and interpreter for the few hour drive to Talnoye.

In 1897 there were 11,100 residents including my father's family and relatives.  In 1998 there were 17 100 people. In 1861, there were approximately 560 household with 5,725 residents.  There was a beet sugar factory, a brewery, a brick plant, two water mills and 11 forges. There was a synagogue, several churches, a hospital, a pharmacy and a post office. There was also an inn, several taverns, various shops and a restaurant.

Talnoye Interest Group
http://www.talnoye.com/


My fellow Talnoye researcher, Alan Shuchat sent the following: "There are more things appearing about Talnoye on the web these days. Here are a few I came up with by searching for Тальное and Тальне, the Russian and Ukrainian spellings, respectively. You can also paste these names into Google and search for images, and you can use Google Translate for text.

Thus Our Town Was Established ...

Thanks to Lynn Arroyo
Larroyo1944@aol.com who, through her efforts,  has graciously re-typed a portion of a relative's journal about the founding of the town of Tarnovka.  The town's name may or may not ring any bells, but read on.  From the town of Bosivka, many pogrom victims or potential victims scattered to found Tarnovka, or to live in already established towns, such as Talnoye, which is mentioned below.  Perhaps this information will shed some light on someone's family research.

The town of Tarnovka, at the edge of the Podolia District, bordering on the Kiev District, belonged in the days of the Soviet rule to the Kiev District. The guess is that the town was called "Tarnovka" because of the low-lying, thorny bush called "Tern" prevalent in the area. The bush produced bluish, edible, cherry-size fruits.  Among the people, this fruit was called "tarn", from which, apparently, the name "Tarnovka." According to oral tradition, the town was founded in 1813, under the following circumstances:


Close by a certain cornfield was a small town named "Bosivka" which stood on the land of a Polish squire. *  Once, in Bosivka a distinguished wedding was arranged. The young man, an 18 years-old rabbinic prodigy, already ordained, was the son of the community rabbi, Abraham Wartman. He came under the huppa and to a life of good deeds with the daughter of Rabbi Raphael of Bershad, the student of Rabbi Pinhas of Koretz of the family of the BESHT. ** All the Jews of Bosivka participated in this Simchah, dancing and singing in the streets of the town.
 
At that moment, by chance, the Polish squire of the town, a zealous, Jew-hating Catholic, passed by. When he saw his "zhids" happy, rejoicing, singing and dancing on the main road of "his land", he was infuriated and directed his underlings to demolish all the Jewish homes for this insolence on their part.
 
In those days, an edict from the squire was the same as an edict from the government, and, to the shock and dismay of the fearful Jews, the mad and cruel edict of the squire, despite the entreaties and tears of the Jews, was executed immediately.  After the destruction of their homes, nothing was left to these unfortunates other than to take their children, their wives, their moveable goods, and wander to another place to find rafter and roof.
 
About half of the people of Bosivka –there had been about a hundred families- moved to a nearby town "Rachmistrivka" [transliterated from the Hebrew] and Rabbi Abraham Wartman served as rabbi of the Bosivka Jews who had settled there. The rest of the refugee families scattered to towns such as "Monastyriska", "Talna," "Tolchin" and others. Rabbi Jacob spoke to the heart of the Jews of Bosivka that they establish a new community and not settle in places in which there were already Jews.
 
Thus they arrived at "Tarnovka" where they came before the squire and asked permission to settle on his land, there to establish a Jewish community, the squire agreed readily for he knew well that the Jews are an industrious people and would help him develop his holdings. He allocated to them an area of land upon which to build their homes and to establish a Jewish community.
 
* The Hebrew "paritz" (poritz) refers to minor Polish nobility. In Jewish usage, it is also a pejorative referring to someone perceived as a violent oppressor.

** acronym for Rabbi Israel Ball Shem Tov (C. 1700-1760), the founder of Hasidism. 

Talnoye, (Talna, Tolna)

 

Town Hall - just like it was when we visited the town in 1994.  In 1912 there were 10,000 Jews but unfortunately, on August 18, 1941 the Nazis shot 2,800 Jews just outside of the town and buried them in two pits.
http://sergekot.com/talnoe/


 

Research
Records of individual households still exist and are located in the Kiev Archives -- from the all-Russia 1897 census.

The Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem has a police report from 1906.  The report gives the names of a number of Jewish residents who were suspected of revolutionary activities


A book entitled "Manya's Story", tells the story of the pogroms in Talnoye through the eyes of the author - Bettyanne Gray


"Slaughter of Jews in the Ukraine"
Authored by Elias Heifetz reports on the 1919 pogrom in Talnoye

There is a 1913 business directory for the southwest part of the Russian Empire, including Talnoye.  Alan Shuchat has a copy of the Talnoye pages.  The entire directory is on microfilm at the New York Public Library (*ZQ-408, "22 Miscellaneous Slavonic Titles"; the directory is #22 on the microfilm.

The 1906-07 Duma voter lists on JewishGen, include records from Talnoye


 

The birth shtetl of my father, Samuel Charles (Chaim Shmuel) Margulis.  In his memory, my wife Shirley and I visited this town in August 1994 and met the Mayor Andrei I. Polishchuk, pictured to my left.  He told us that we were the first Americans, to his knowledge, to have visited Talnoye and welcomed us with open arms. 


Shown here is from left to right: Mikhail (our driver), myself, the then Mayor of Talnoye and my Russian friend Sasha (of blessed memory).  Sasha and Mikhail escorted Shirley and I around Ukraine and Russia.

  
The mayor and our driver, Mikhail looking for the current owner of my grandfather's home in August, 1994 trip.  The Mayor found the Natensons visiting some friends at the top of the hill just out of site in the photo on the right.

If you can read Russian Cyrillic, then maybe a pdf file that Alan Shuchat passed on to me will be of interest.  I have forwarded the site to my nephew Simon, who now lives in Melbourne, Australia, but grew up in Talnoye and have asked him to translate the gist of the site into English.  If successful, I will post it to this page in the future.
http://www.komkon.org/~sher/books/eva.pdf

Twersky Rabbinical Line from Talna
Rabbi Y. Twersky, Talner Congregation, 64 Corey Road, Brookline, MA 02146 and Harvard University Center for Jewish Studies, 6 Divinity Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02138.  An Ohel, close to the center of the town holds the remains of Reb. David Twersky
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2nb56/talner/

We were interviewed by a newspaperman, Arkady, who turned out to be a young Jewish fellow, but he wasn't very happy about admitting that fact.  And we met two Jewish women - a mother and daughter who remembered (very vaguely), my father's family.

If you are interested in an account of life as it existed in Talnoye around 1921, I suggest you find a copy of 'Manya's Story' written by Bettyanne Gray and published by
Lerner Publications Company
Minneapolis
DS135.R95AA2754  947'.71 {B}  77-88522 
ISBN 0-8225-0762-5 

You may be able to get a copy through my hyperlink to Amazon.com  

If you can read Ukrainian (or Russian) you can read 'all about it' -- our visit to Talnoye in the local Talnoye newspaper or the follow-up story at Margulis Saga.

Interestingly enough, our driver Mikhail,  was a former MIG pilot and though he did not speak English, we became a good friend as we spent our time visiting around Ukraine.

   

The current condition of the tombstones lying on the hillside after being bulldozed from the original cemetery site.  Photo taken by Ted Margulis

One of many tombstones laying on the riverbank where the Communists had bulldozed all of the tombstones from the old Jewish cemetery.  They needed to bulldozed the stones off to make room to build a school which now stands over the old graves.  The tombstones lie on a nearby river bank - just scattered around - wherever they fell.

    

The Mayor had Sasha and Mikhail take us out of the town so that we could see the mass grave of the Jews who were killed by the Nazis.  Here I am saying Kadish over their grave.

      

The synagogue in Talnoye.  Photos taken by Ted Margulis in 1994

It is in very bad shape as you can see, since their are no Jews who need to pray here any longer. All photos on this page were taken by Ted Margulis when visiting the town in 1994   

'The Castle'
Once the home of a Ukrainian land baron, before the Communist regime came to power, this has become the Talnoye Museum where they display some wonderful old furniture and paintings. 
                 


A view of the 18th and 19th century kitchen

A scale model of an ancient village layout that was discovered on the outskirts of Talnoye and now displayed in 'The Castle' along with hundred of pieces of pottery and jewelry found in the area.  I have a booklet that was given to me by the staff at 'The Castle' that details the find.

June and Alan Byrnes traveled to Talnoye in 2002 and have taken some excellent photos - now I just have to find them to add to this page


  more to come ...


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